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0:00 them up here and make their commitment Vern sat there beside me I was holding 0:07 back my tears but she beat me to it she started to cry we've been at this war all of us not not 0:15 just Vern and I all of you we've been at this war our pants have been at this 0:20 very if you find me to hear tribal leaders say what they are saying here is a day 0:28 we've been waiting for so those that you don't know that we've 0:34 been waiting the ones before us have been waiting and when I met NCI 0:40 when she came up to Old flats and her commitment and she left on her next 0:46 Journey my children and I sat there and we just cried and I told him I said 0:53 I've been going to NCI since I was 22 years old I said you guys don't understand what 1:00 this lady just said this is what we have been praying for 1:05 someone to be in that capacity to not to be afraid to say the things that needs 1:11 to be said someone to help train these tribal leaders to know what they're dealing 1:17 with across this country it's just not leadership within the reservation it's leadership within the 1:24 state and the country they need to understand and recognize that but most importantly they need to 1:30 understand that they have the responsibility to their people 1:36 and the only way that's going to happen is they've got to get educated are either you put in the right people 1:45 and I almost said one of the big things that the United States made as a mistake 1:51 was to make tribal governments but if you ask the question why didn't this happen a long time ago is because 1:58 there was a transition happening in our people didn't understand that 2:05 you know when we talk about the language I can go back to my father 2:10 my father only spoke Apache my mother spoke Apache yellow pie Spanish 2:18 uh the mission Indians they're in their language and then picked up an Navajo I 2:23 used to sit there and say man my mom can speak six languages and English was last 2:33 but when the tribal governments were formed those who spoke Apache or this big 2:40 English weren't hired from the government tribal governments and they couldn't even get jobs off the 2:46 reservation because the first thing they hit them with was you don't understand English 2:52 you don't understand it was an assimilation plan to break the 2:58 language so there was a point there that English 3:04 came in stronger 3:09 and it took away that important language it was a way of breaking the language 3:17 So my poor father couldn't work with the tribe and couldn't work outside so my 3:24 mother always remember him coming up the road crying because he had seven kids 3:31 nobody would hurt So my poor mom and my poor dad began to 3:37 work really hard to speak English and he said I don't want my children to 3:42 suffer because this world is terrible can't be Who We Are 3:50 so some of my brothers and sisters ahead of me got hurt but not 3:57 really speaking the language they could hear it and understand 4:02 and to before my mom left the world she used to cry about it 4:08 why did they do this to us why 4:16 so we were affected in so many ways but at that point the people who became the 4:22 tribal government leaders didn't understand and what irritated me the most is the 4:29 Bia wasn't part of capturing all information and making records about us 4:38 and yet they never protected us because when I grew up in the 60s the 4:44 people were saying behind unseen 4:49 we those guys know we talk to them they knew it they said they're going to 4:54 protect us but little did our people know that the Bia the rear Indian Affairs wasn't there 5:00 for them and most of you guys remember this with 5:05 reservations that always me and my buddy Here Andrew we grew up with going to Indian Health with them walking around 5:12 with military uniform MPI employees had military uniform 5:19 our parents were afraid to go to these places because we just fought them 30 years ago 5:30 and on top of that we didn't have no rights everything had to be approved by bia 5:39 even though tribal councils are having a meeting and making an official business it didn't mean nothing until Bia signed 5:45 it and Bia used to kick a lot of these resolutions back to the tribes they 5:51 fixed this we don't want this and we don't want that change it 5:57 they were tormented that's why I was laughing I came back to 6:02 you when I hear people talk about President Nixon if it wasn't for that 6:07 self-determination act that he gave the people we probably won't even be where we are 6:14 right now so when I look at the shop more governments they've been earned 6:20 or they didn't exercise their voice until the 1980s late 80s they're still trying to figure 6:28 out the bi didn't even come in and help the tribes then educated them about nothing 6:35 didn't prepare our kids for nothing of what we're going to encounter 6:41 that's why you hear fernello right now she's the first and I call her Department the war department 6:48 all these departments have defend the land the water the ancestral history 6:53 this funding was developed at that time 6:59 so you can see the struggle of our people if you go back and do a timeline 7:06 they trusted they've trusted these people 7:15 and they had to learn this government by themselves and nobody teaching them what 7:20 it was but you know they took it wasn't perfect but they 7:28 took it and these are the things that we we 7:34 suffer when I go to court on Old Flats they tell me well how come you people on the 7:41 1900s didn't say nothing I come in the 1930s they didn't say nothing even through the 50s how come they 7:48 didn't even say anything in the 1970s they didn't say anything I'm looking at them like wow 7:56 the Bia has all that the universities have all this stuff 8:02 but no they exempt laws so those information will never be revealed 8:10 in the meantime they continue to assimilate and program our communities 8:17 and our children fall prey to them 8:23 so if you look back and you do a timeline of where you came from and you dissect the government it was ugly 8:32 it was really ugly and I'm real grateful to the people of San Carlos when they made me the 8:39 chairman of the tribe because boy did I go after everything 8:45 I wasn't going to let them do that to us anymore no more 8:51 and to know how we couldn't even build our economy because 8:57 it was already cornered from our neighbors 9:03 when Theresa did her class about colonization and capitalism 9:09 they were a big part of not letting San Carlos grow 9:17 so if you do a timeline and you do a history of your tribe it's really terrible 9:26 so it made me not be upset with my tribal leaders then I realize that oh man we have a lot of work ahead of us 9:35 and again I go back of how I got elected and why I got 9:40 elected and I tell you as a tribal leader of how 9:46 to explain that to your people was a difficult one and in San Carlos 9:53 they were trying to convert US to Christianity so they actually took a family 10:00 and that family is who vanilla and I are part of 10:05 and created a plan because if we're the patches weren't converting 10:11 and took this huge family that was already increases of war no weapons no nothing 10:17 and the plan was to go in kill him and those family members that 10:23 ran to the church and those families that ran to the mountain the mountain those that ran to the mountain would be 10:30 killed but those who ran to the church 10:36 the preacher would lift the Bible and say to the soldiers these are the 10:41 children of God and boy did that convert a lot of people 10:48 but using those tactics against us so what else were the people going to do 10:54 they're going to convert not willingly 11:00 it was Uggy he was really ugly and then when the 11:06 United States was upset with a certain tribe they went and put those tribes with the 11:11 scouts and gave free will to the scouts to do whatever they wanted 11:17 because they were upset that some of these tribes defended their rights 11:23 this not only happened in the southwest it happened everywhere 11:30 so now they make these tribal governments put their own assimilated leaders into it 11:37 to get what they want of course they had to do it 11:43 because their families will be sacrifice they would sacrifice their family 11:49 families will never return kids were plugged 11:55 I'm really grateful for my granddaughters to hug me but it's really hard for me to hug back my mother never 12:01 hugged me sorry times you try to hug her she goes 12:08 and then I start figuring out but I'm so grateful to see my granddaughter and her mom huggington 12:15 but one time I asked my mother why are we that way and she cried she said Son 12:23 they took us any time of the day they took us 12:30 he sent us away a lot of people never came back 12:37 then I had children and they took my children too 12:42 and she was talking about the relocation program so in the 60s 12:49 the parents were not happy when their kids graduated 12:54 because that meant that they were going to be sent to Oakland Los Angeles 13:00 all these places where they sent the kids that now they're finding bodies 13:05 but even at that time there were sin and two of my sisters never returned 13:13 and my mom would cry so here comes my brother 13:19 Dominic's grandfather the one he thought she's talking about graduates in 1968 13:26 and there was a federal policy change to allow us to stay now because Arizona 13:32 allowed native people to go to colleges based on finance federal funds 13:40 they get it for the money it's hard for my brother Paul 13:47 having two parties one for graduating and one being able to stay home and go 13:54 to school and I just remember my mother not really 14:00 being happy yet because she couldn't Trust is this real 14:08 so this is how we were raised with our family 14:14 traumatized by what happened in this picture so I know this happened to us 14:21 it happened to every native people in this country and it's happened to the black people 14:27 and the white people and everybody else in between because it happened to them first 14:34 and this is how ugly when we talk about colonization and capitalism 14:40 we've come a long way to hear our Travel Leaders say what they're saying 14:47 we come a long way to see organizations saying what they're saying we've come a long way with Christians 14:55 finally saying what they're saying but it goes back to what Nolan had 15:02 mentioned about the ancestors before us 15:08 and now the children has then on this Earth 15:13 what are we going to do the chain is already moved it's already 15:20 been on the tracks but you know what I will tell you this 15:26 right now the train has stopped right here for all of you 15:32 will you get on are you will go back 15:39 to these problems and stay within those problems because that's your safety zone 15:46 oh will you come out now to begin to battle a real fire 15:53 they say that there's a religious war on the other side of the 15:59 world it's here 16:05 it's here how can they say that when they destroyed everything on the other side 16:13 this is the last place this is what our people told us 16:18 if anything's going to change in the world it's here 16:24 but we have to wake up so the train has stopped here as fast as 16:32 it's been moving it's stopping for you I know I'm not patchy 16:39 but I'm your brother I'm your uncle 16:45 you're my family needs your feet you're not black 16:51 but if you look at me as an Apache up here 16:57 and not look at me as a brother and we have a problem 17:05 because I would never come to the Pasco Yankee or any of your places 17:11 and mislead you misguide you I will never do that because I won't do 17:17 that to my family but I'm out here 17:25 to help you and help me and help this world and help what we're facing 17:33 this isn't a summit for me 17:38 this isn't a summit conference with a stronghold 17:44 foreign is already there we're watering it 17:52 this is what the Creator wants us to do my mother used to tell me you can hate 17:59 this people if you want you're gonna hit them if you want or you can kill him if you want 18:07 but is that who you are you have to remember before these things 18:12 came on this side of the world we were not that kind of people 18:18 we were in sync with what God gave the world we were the keepers 18:24 always that's who you are so 18:30 I'm sorry to say that when you walk down that road they'll call you names by your 18:35 color by Who You Are they will spit it and they'll hit it hit 18:40 you that sounds just that's not who we are let them do it 18:47 let them see themselves in their mirror but it's going to take that to make 18:54 changes and that's why I tell you if you're in the spiritual robe you have to be strong 19:01 but know that the energy comes from all this creation that God created the mother to be 19:11 so always understand that so for some reason I became the chair 19:21 now all of you for reservations no I don't come from a big family 19:26 I come from a family with brought in as a prisoner of war we're not Scouts we're prisoners of War 19:34 in 2005 when I got elected as a chairman he was the first time for us on the 19:41 other side there were prisoners became the leader of the Saint Charles of patches 19:51 because even in our government the scouts held the leadership 20:00 and that live in US but my good friend here our Angel and 20:07 myself started battling this when we were young then no we're we're relatives 20:17 you know our Scouts got used by the United States because of 20:22 anything they all should have been living as a daughter of all the nice places 20:32 with me and with Andrew and I remind them what Geronimo said 20:41 who are you going to stand with now and I'm so happy my my brother man who 20:51 grew up with me you know all the way making these changes 20:57 to show that we need one voice one people and if it can work in saying Cardinals 21:03 it can work anywhere that's my point 21:09 a very diverse people hit by Scouts and prisoners 21:17 to come together and to hear the child the vice chairman speak here 21:22 to hear the chairman of our tribe to continue he told you 21:28 so we can break down those barriers they could be breaking down broke down anywhere 21:36 I think it's important because I know your stories are equal to mine 21:42 but it's not being not it's not to be afraid 21:47 kind doesn't mean you're awake crying means healing it pushes me to the 21:54 next pushes me to the next 22:01 and that's why I say it we all have to be the same because the resolution copper the mining you 22:08 know I've been shot at already I don't tell anybody I read for my life in Chicago Indonesia 22:15 with the United States abandoned me I mean we could tell you all this world finding stories that I went through 22:22 but it was all about learning that this world isn't what it is 22:28 American dream that they talk about is an American Dream it's a colonized capitalist dream 22:35 they're teaching you 22:40 so we have to wake up we have to play a bigger apartment 22:48 don't be afraid because I even had 22:54 the pope try to challenge me with his highest cardinal 23:00 and we want that argument yay they actually came to me to debate 23:06 the religion had a really nice Cardinal head but I mean 23:12 I thought he took it from my room the curtains [Laughter] 23:17 it was really nice it was like about 800 people in a room 23:22 camera's not crazy and he actually came to debate me 23:28 so he of course he started it was in Italy that when it was my turn I sat there and 23:34 the translator looked at me like crazy because what I was saying was I'm not here for a debate 23:40 I can't come here to debate their religion I was never taught to do that and I will not do that it's after you 23:49 made a long speech he stirring a storm now and I don't know if you guys been around Italians but man hey like bees 23:56 after that all upset so finally one man got and said to me 24:03 yeah I only have one question for Indian people 24:12 and for us if a man was disobedient and did everything wrong 24:19 and he got in a car accident and he had three minutes before he 24:25 would die and says oh Jesus God forgive me for all my sins 24:31 forgive me do you know that Jesus and God will forgive his sins 24:38 what about you infants and again I wasn't there to debate him 24:44 but in return to the whole crowd I told them that sounds like it that little boy 24:51 terrible guy had bad parents I guess 24:57 and that's what I left them with then I come here at Oak Flats 25:04 and I get the Lutheran Church from Mesa the preacher that controls that comes up 25:10 to see me with his congregating some of his congregation and he actually tried to convert me at 25:16 Old Flats so I sit there for almost two hours listening to him 25:24 and he said to me I lost the same thing that guy said 25:31 was he said in our good book we can go and do as bad 25:38 as we want do you know that the people up here the mining people that you 25:43 disagree with they can do everything they want but do you know that when you 25:49 die and they die you're both going to be in the Pearly Gates do you know that 25:58 and I'm looking at him thinking to myself wow and I'm sure I 26:04 had my mother because my mother is over here talking to me in my head this is the time song 26:10 [Laughter] 26:17 okay I said I'm not here to be you're a good book 26:23 I said but my mother tells me to tell you this and I said 26:31 you're forgetting something very important that God created 26:38 God created a mother and he's I sat here for two hours 26:43 listening to you and you used the example of a mother and father mother and father only man only woman a man 26:51 listen to you all the way through I said well what you're leaving out 26:57 is that our mother earth and I'm going to give you the example that 27:03 when a child misbehave and the father is gone the mother gets the child and say hey 27:10 you didn't behave you sit right here and you're not going anywhere 27:15 you're not going anywhere the father comes home and they're really happy to see the sun hey son come on let's go 27:22 so the sun gets up and who says wait 27:27 you're not going anywhere you're gonna stay right here and he looks at the father and said your son 27:35 misbehaved is not going anywhere until I say so 27:40 he's got to learn and what does the father say oh okay hey son you better listen to your mother 27:47 and the father wants a man I said my point is that you better not 27:53 you better start teaching your congregation about Mother Earth because our body goes back to the Earth 28:00 and our soul does go to a sacred place but our body goes back to our mother 28:09 that's why it was so important that when my mother passed she did not 28:15 want to be in a casket and she told me she said Son 28:20 it's like when a mother lose a child and the child never comes home the mother is 28:26 never the same will never be the same 28:32 but even if the child came back the mother can put that child away 28:38 even though it hurts even though it's the worst part you can feel but she can 28:44 put the child away but if that child never comes back no matter how old they are if something 28:50 happens the mother would never be this deep so please do not put me in a casket 29:00 because I want the mother to know I came home 29:06 these people make these cats for money and looking for himself 29:12 they scare everybody but she says son 29:20 you've got to remember mother earth and I told him all of that 29:27 he got up walked around walked back to his man came back to his little group and said hey we gotta go let's go and as 29:35 everybody was leaving me kept piling away and walking away I always work with 29:40 the son-in-law coming to me and I said oh God he's coming to me and then he says Thank you Mr nosy nobody's never 29:48 even talked like that my father-in-law that and his daughter came back 29:54 a couple of days and brought food for a bit on flats and she goes thank you Mr nosy she goes I don't know why it's the 30:02 way it is but we disagree even though our men being that's my father you know 30:08 I'm Lutheran but I disagree she's not my father will never be the same after his 30:14 top team and since that time he came back one time didn't say much but brought me some 30:19 food so he didn't convert me but I converted him [Applause] 30:30 you know I really want to thank all of you for coming uh I want to thank the speakers the cooks the leaderships that 30:37 came and you personally you I want to thank you and everything that has gone into this and I want to thank the people 30:44 who are gone who we have lost not just us but all of us in here because they were the The Shining Light and the 30:51 example for us to follow you know we can't never forget them uh for what they've done for us and those who have 30:58 passed you know it keeps me motivated to keep going in the like Nolan said for those young ones it keeps me motivated 31:04 to keep fighting and I'm just glad my mother gave me all this advice because now I can meet somebody like you 31:11 the leaders everybody you people but you know on March 20 2023 is our Hearing in 31:20 Los Angeles at Pasadena so as soon as this is over and I get 31:26 back to Old Flats if I give me like two to three days I'm going to work to try to pull the biggest gathering on the 31:33 religious belief for all of us in Los Angeles [Applause] [Music] 31:40 really really need your help and I'm so happy with some of the other agencies 31:46 coming forward to bring their people and I was even told that you know if it gets 31:52 so huge don't look at getting the doctor Stadium but I just got another word that we can use in the University stadiums uh 32:00 it's just awesome things are already clicking right now and like I said this 32:06 is the real war in keeping Mother Earth alive because believe me the other side 32:14 of the world and we've been there they don't have the opportunity to do 32:20 what we can do here in America you need to understand that don't let these 32:26 politicians and the media tell you that that's the real religious war no it's 32:33 here and we can all help the people across this world if us native people 32:38 pull together with all the people because the people before us have the experience of what's equal in this world 32:46 so let's rise Let's Be Who We Are 32:51 and let's bring the best part of us out of them in why God made us to be who we 32:57 are so I'll leave you with that and thank you so much and now we come to the 33:02 closing part of our son thank you very much 33:21 so before we asked the guys to come out to share some songs can we kind of gather as much as we can uh for a 33:28 picture I'm gonna attempt the selfie if not I'm gonna take a picture of all your beautiful faces okay oh yeah we're gonna 33:34 do the oak flat so that's your left arm all right [Music]
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